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Allison Lichter's avatar

No one wins when women are pitted against each other. We are all responsible for each other, kids/no kids, young/old, women, queer, men -- all of us are going down if we don't help hold each other up. Love that you brought this conversation into this space, Lane!

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Colby Richudson's avatar

The lack of structural support for parents is the problem. I actually do think we all bear the responsibility for raising the children of our society, whether they came from our bodies or not. You don't get to opt out, because when you were a child, people raised you, and now you have to participate in raising the children, and that's just what it means to live in a society. Those children will grow up to be the labor supporting society when you're old, whether you're biologically responsible for their existence or not.

But we've broken the community, hands-on aspect of that societal activity (the raising of children), and in the U.S., we haven't replaced it with anything.

So "you have to participate in raising the children" is now meaningless or worse, because we're not raising the children through a social safety net funded by taxes, so when I say what I said (I said what I said) I'm saying that childfree people do owe parents their labor. Because there's nothing else.

This all ties in to "what do we actually owe each other" discussions I've seen a lot of floating around the internet right now, because for a long time the approved liberal I-go-to-therapy answer is "nothing, you don't owe anyone anything" EXCEPT WE DO because that's what being human is. We live in a society. We do owe each other things. Adults owe children care. As a collective, the adults of a society owe their children care. You can't opt out of it. You can't just be like "well I chose not to have children because I knew I couldn't afford it so anyone who has children and can't afford it deserves for their children to starve". Those children still belong to you.

And the more people who opt out of it, the harder it becomes for the people who don't, and then we're pointing fingers at each other over who has the harder life, and ragging on each other for our individual choices, because isolation and individualism are all we know, and all the while the ruling class is laughing at us as they take a Scrooge McDuck dive into their swimming pools full of money.

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